so I gotta figure this stuff out:
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Here's the Comp I'm building:
APEX-T-381 case [Mid tower MicroATX]
StarTech ATX2PW550PRO 550W ATX12V 2.01 Power Supply
ASRock A780GMH Motherboard (w/ PCI express 2.0 port for the Graphics card)
AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor
Kingston HyperX 4GB (4 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
VISON V221WD Black 21.6" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor (might upgrade this soon)
Operating Systems: Linux Mint (8), Open Suse (11.2), Mandriva 2010, and Win XP Home Ed. (SP3)
What I will be doing and playing:
-Assassin's Creed 2
-Splinter's cell conviction
-Prototype
-GTA 4
-NFS shift
-a WRC Rally game *aka no graphics heavy first person shooters like crysis*
-Video editing
-Live TV, Recorded TV and DVD's (don't own a TV)
-Maybe a tiny bit of manual overclocking, but nothing ridiculous, as a can't afford crazy fans, water coolers or temp monitors.
Parameters (if you know something that would work better please let me know!):
-at or under $50
-fits into a somewhat small case (that can apparently fit a GT250, but still, less cramped the better)
-NOT LOUD
-not going to be competing online so frame rate isn't "vital", but I'd like to be able to max every game above as much as possible for $50 or less (and have it run smoothly). consider me less of a gamer and more of a multimedia user.
the 3 I'm choosing between all have unique pros and cons, I'm not sure which of them are important
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Gigabyte NVidia GeForce 9500GT (512mb)
Pros
-best Mem clock speed (1600Mhz which is 2x as much as competitors)
-GDDR3 instead of GDDR2 memory (I'm assuming these two pros are linked)
Cons
-only one w/ directX 10 instead of 10.1
-Oldest of the 3 (which could be a pro because it seems to have plenty of good reviews)
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Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 4650 (1GB)
Pros:
-1Gb of GDDR2 ram
Cons:
-everything else is average, and I've heard 1Gb is pretty useless unless you are a super gamer.
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Gigabyte NVidia GT 220 (512Mb)
-I think this is the newest model to come out (supposedly a replacement for the 9500GT)
-48 stream processors (compared to the other two's 32)
-OpenGL 3.1 support (and dX 10.1) - other 2 are 2.1
Cons
-slightly slower core clock speed (625Mhz compared to 650 for the other two)
-Can't find many reviews
WHICH WOULD YOU PICK?
more processing units (GT 220) and support for OGL3.1?
2x as much ram (4650)?
GDDR3 and twice as much MC speed, but no dX 10.1 (just reg DX 10)?
Thank you so much for your response. have a great day!|||Ok, for 2 reasons I say pick the GT 220.
#1 - ATi drivers for Linux are spotty at best (and that's only when they're available)
#2 - The GT 220 is a bit faster than a 9500 GT and it has the DX 10.1 and OpenGL 3.1
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarti…
There's a performance review.|||don't go for the more ram. At this point, 1gb video cards suck shyster compared to some 512mb cards. in the same price range. A high-quality 512mb card will get you much better performance than any 1gb in the same price range. More RAM is not better. Just the opposite in most cases. Go for the GDDR3 or whatever the heck it is. Go for higher speed, screw memory capacity. That doesn't mean jack.|||Well, you aren't going to max out all games with a $50 card. The minimum threshold for anyone dipping their toes into GTA 4 waters would be the Radeon 4670- which is about $15 more expensive, but twice as fast as a 9500GT. Given that systems with $150 graphics cards still have trouble maxing out GTA, the performance gain/price is just too much to ignore. But that game aside, I think you'd be be fine with your current choices.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as…
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as…
Of the cards you've listed, I'd probably go with the GDDR3 9500GT card.
You are correct that having 1gb vs 512mb doesn't matter unless you're gaming at VERY high resolutions (higher than 1900x1200, which cards in this price range can't realistically handle anyway)
When comparing gaming performance of GDDR2 cards, the 4650 beats the 9500GT:
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,65935…
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-6278-v…
I consider DirectX 10.1 support to be a non-issue. Since DX11 is already here, I don't expect developers to be spending much time trying to take advantage of that. OpenGL support is almost meaningless for games, but if your days are spent in Photoshop, the GT220 with 3.1 support might be the shrewd pick.
http://gizmodo.com/5368037/directx-101-v…
One final thought: TV-out and DVD playback is generally better on ATI cards than Nvidia cards- it's been that way for years. ATI's Avivo technology simply beats Nvidia's Purevideo in terms of image quality. In fact, I notice the quality difference even with regular output to LCD monitors. If that's more important to you than gaming performance, then go with the 4650 (or as I suggested, spend $15 more and get a 4670)|||If you are mostly wanting to play games but can't afford a good computer, I really recommend second thinking the computer part. Consoles are going to give you a lot smoother frame rate and better graphics than a bottom of the line computer. I'm not sure if you had other tasks in mind, but you may want to just think about getting a PS3 as you can install Linux on it.|||I would pick the ATI 4650, it has better performance than the other 2 cards. The stream processors in the ATI card are 320 not 32.
If you could afford another 15$ go for the 4670 with GDDR3 memory instead of GDDR2.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best…
Good article on graphics cards.
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